Sunday, October 26, 2008

The Guillen Myth....

“We still (stink),” Guillen says. “How about that? We still (stink), simple as that. We still (stink). You got it. If you want to know the truth, you got it.” source KC Star

What's the difference between a perennial malcontent and a fiery leader.......

Some would say Perception.....

What is the Myth regarding Jose Guillen is he a clubhouse cancer who will destroy a team or a vocal out-spoken leader who is misunderstood by people outside the organization he's playing for..........

Ever since the NY Post reported that the Mets and Royals discussed a trade at the deadline and could re-visit the idea this winter I've heard nothing but negative things about Guillen. I've heard that he will destroy any chemistry the team has, he's a bad person, a head case and he will wear out his welcome just to name a few things......

There is no doubt that Guillen comes with baggage, he has played for nine teams in 11 seasons. His biggest incident occurred in 2004 with the Angels where he was suspended for inappropriate behavior for the last two weeks of the season and the entire playoffs. Apparently he was mad about being removed in a close game against a division rival in a pennant race and spoke out about it. Even in the Oakland Tribune article in discussing his suspension has a former teammate defending Jose...

"I know Jose's got a good heart," former teammate Eric Byrnes said. "But I don't know what went on over there. He's definitely one who will voice his opinion. He'll tell everybody how he feels, whether those people want to hear it or not. source Oakland Tribune
The very next year he was traded to the Nationals and since then it is hard to find a negative comment from a team or teammates that he has played with/for. Now that's not to say he isn't vocal or shy to say whats on his mind but let's face it, if the above comment is what gives him such a bad rap that's exactly what this team needs. Haven't we all been saying this team needs a fiery, vocal leader, Guillen in Washington was the one to take the heat and call team meetings. The Nats tried to re-sign him and were out bid by the Mariners...

"When we were going good, people said it was [because of] me," said Guillen, whose team has dropped 11 of its last 13 games. "I take the blame now, too. It's tough now. That's why I had a meeting [after a 3-2 loss Friday]. I had to get it off my chest, that we should be [playing] better than this, but [the players] feel the same. source Chicago-Sun Times 8/8/04
In Seattle he was loved by the team and the fans. Not only was he considered a positive impact player but a clubhouse leader. The Mariners as the Nats tried very hard to re-sign him and were simply out bid by the Royals. Seattle really liked Guillen if you goggle "Seattle Guillen positive" there are hundreds of articles.


"I don't know why people always bring the negative stuff," Guillen said after another positive afternoon. "I've always been a positive guy. I'm not that type of player that I'm getting myself in trouble. You never hear about Jose Guillen getting in trouble off the field. I'm just a guy who wants to play every day. I want to earn people's respect and they've given me respect here." source Seattle Times


Last year, in the Mariners clubhouse, who helped Guillen when it came to "policing" and telling guys they had to play hard? Who got in players' faces?
"I believe it was only myself,'' he said. "Because you had a lot of nice people who pretty much just like to be nice. In this game, sometimes, when you make a lot of money, this is not about being nice. It's about doing your thing. Earning your money and doing your job.'' source
Seattle Times



There is a love fest for Guillen in Seattle, since leaving the former GM says his biggest regret is letting him go and when they heard he was available many said he was what was missing from the Mariners clubhouse.

So if the Royals are ready to move him maybe it was just Washington and Seattle where he fit in, maybe he's still a malcontent. It seems like Guillen has burned his bridges in Kansas City but it's not due to off the field issues or negative clubhouse demeanor. It's once again players not living up to expectations and Guillen confronting that behavior which has rubbed the coaching staff wrong. If you look at message boards regarding the Castillo/Guillen rumors their not looking to dump Guillen they expect the Royals to get more.....


These being the Royals, there are still holes. Guillen was frustrated Friday when David DeJesus looked behind him while running to third base, nearly getting thrown out. That frustration was amplified when the Royals blew a four-run lead and lost. source KC Star


“That inning I thought Trey was going to take me out because I could barely walk,” said Guillen, who went 1-for-4 with two RBIs. “When I came in I was sitting there and I was really sore. He said, ‘Do you want me to put Dave (DeJesus) in for defense?’ I told him let’s get one more and try to win this one.” source Yahoo sports

I'll admit I'm bias I wanted the Mets to go after him when he was a free agent, so if the Mets can pickup Guillen to be the right handed bat in left field and lose Castillo I'm all for it. But for a guy who's being discussed in the same sentence as Vince Coleman his last three teams have called him a positive club house leader. Further more Manuel was able to focus Reyes and get the most from Delgado, he just might be the perfect manager for Guillen.....

So forgetting all the drama who is Jose Guillen, he is a 32 y/o right handed corner outfielder with a lifetime .273 BA, .446 Slg. Pct. and .323 OBP. He is owed 12 mil. per year for the next two years.

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